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Socialism/Communism

I've been fortunate throughout my career to have been able to travel extensively. Two of these trips took me into the Soviet Union, once before the Iron Curtain came down and once, just after the Berlin wall fell. The first was an assignment in the Ukraine where I stayed for a short time in a city that had seen no foreigners in over 40 years. I certainly could fill several pages with details of the tragic things I saw but obviously this blog is not the place to do that so I will just touch on some of the key observations that will hopefully make the case for my opinion on the subject. First it was amazing to see the 2nd most powerful nation in the world with a third world standard of living for its citizens. The shortage of housing was so severe that 3 families routinely lived in one bedroom apartments. Everyone carried their own tool boxes in their vehicles because there were no garages or service stations as we know them. At the manufacturing plant I visited the parking lot had a wide variety of vehicles ranging from bicycles, scooters, and Lada's ( the old Russian jalopy). However the most numerous mode of transportation for the common man was the horse and wagon. Remember this was in 1988! Trees growing out of manholes (missing covers) in the middle of the main streets were a common sight. Of course everyone had a job (0 unemployment) but the wages were based on the value of the work as determined by the Government. If you made 100 rubles a week that was probably what you made 10 years earlier as well. The upside was that prices didn't go up much either. For example your telephone (if you had one) bill stayed at 15 rubles a month for years. But because there was no incentive or funds to improve it the system was terrible as you couldn't connect 1/2 the time and the other 1/2 the lines were overloaded and busy. Unions were not allowed and it was common for people that wanted to improve their earnings to cut their workday in 1/2. If they were paid 20 rubles a day for a 10 hour day they would only work 5 hours and hide the other 5 and voila! they doubled their hourly rate. Of course I must not forget to mention that the government or "Party Members" lived in regal homes and drove BMW's and Volvo's. The second trip was into East Germany just after it opened up and the first thing that struck me was the condition of the roadways. Driving from Frankfurt along the highways towards the Eastern section you enjoyed the well paved autobahn with the roadside amenities, billboards, precise road direction markings etc. But as I crossed over into the Eastern bloc the road turned to a dingy grey with many cracks and potholes. The only writing was graffiti on stone bridges and dilapidated fences. The homes looked weather beaten and unkempt and the infrastructure of the towns and cities needed massive repairs. Overall both trips were depressing and truly showed what happens when the State is in control of everything. When people cede their freedoms and control over their lives to the government there are very few decisions left for the individual to make. The folks here in North America who believes in "big" government with massive social spending and the redistribution of wealth (take away from those that have and give to those that don't) should visit countries with this type of system and then maybe they would see the light. The next time you hear of expanded social spending, new government regulations, Supreme Court Justices making law instead of interpreting it, stop and think about the old Soviet Union and Venezuala among others. The Russians fought a revolution to get a "Communism/Socialist" system but thankfully we are moving at a slower pace and there is still a possibility that a strong leader will emerge to stem the tide. For the sake of my Grandchildren I can only hope.

Communism/Socialism

I've never had the opportunity to travel to a communist/socialist state. No doubt it was fascinating.
I did study communism/socialism in university. My professor was born behind the Iron curtain and did make it very clear to us that although on paper socialism can sound very fair, it certainly is very oppressive.
Think of the political spectrum as a circle that does not quite meet at the bottom.
Communism sits at the very bottom of the left hand side of this 'almost circle'. That's where the Communist Party would sit.As you travel the circle clockwise you meet other political parties/political ideologies that come and go over the years. For example as you travel the left side moving up toward the top you might find the Marxist Leninist party. Closer to the centre but still on the left you would find the NDP.
At the top middle part of the circle you find the Liberal party.
Just right of the Liberal middle would be the Conservative party. As you travel further down the right side of the circle you'll find more right wing parties (ie/ Social Credit)
At the bottom of the right side of the almost circle is Fascism.
So towards the top piece of the circle are the political ideologies that are less oppressive.
Communism at the bottom left, and Fascism on the lower right of the almost circle, almost touch. They are almost equally oppressive.
They are oppressive because they take away so many of the personal freedoms that the more moderate ideologies on the top part of the circle enjoy.
We are not even close to lower sides of this spectrum. NDP is no more communist than the Conservatives are fascist.
When our governments have increased or decreased social spending it does not put them even close to the oppression faced in Communist or Fascist regimes.
I feel you are going to far in your concern that this could happen.
PS: an interesting thing....there has never been a truly Communist country as envisioned by Karl Marx. His communism was to arise out of a revolution in an already industrialized society. That's never happened.
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Your professor probably has

Your professor probably has the best insight to this issue as he/she has lived under this type of regime and can speak from experience. I agree with the circle concept as it explains the ideologies reasonably well. I take issue however with the comparison of Conservatism and Fascism. True conservatism by and large offers the most freedoms of any ideology but it has been attacked so much by the far left over the years that people who do not understand conservatism think they are a bunch of religious zealots who have no compassion. Today there are very few true conservatives and there are certainly very few in Canada. The party that currently calls itself conservative is nowhere near the true political meaning of the word. Conservative principles generally include small government, a minimum of government interference in the daily lives of citizens, more personal freedom for everyone with an opportunity to be the best that you can be and a free market society. One of the key beliefs in true conservatism is that every society should be judged on how they take care of "those that cannot do for themselves" and therefore safety nets for these people must be put in place. The difference in today's world is that the interpretation of "those that cannot do for themselves" includes "those that don't want to do for themselves". The other thing that is upper most in conservatism is responsibility and accountability. Unfortunately, where we are today is that no one is responsible for anything anymore. It was my mother, it was a poor childhood, it was always someone else or something else that is to blame for whatever was done, never me me me.
I agree that we are not close to the fascist or communist examples that you mentioned above but I see us on that road for sure. We have more regulations today than ever before (big government) that erode personal freedoms. Every time a law or regulation is enacted because the government feels it is better for you then you have just lost the ability to make a personal choice for yourself. You don't even notice these little things as they happen and then eventually (hopefully) you wake up one day and realize what you have lost. I believe in the ingenuity and creativity of our country men and women. Let's encourage them to excel not to sit with their hand out waiting for what they believe the government or society owes them.