Abortion Debate
It is amazing how this subject has grown with the many twists and turns taken as it made its journey through the Courts of both the USA and Canada. I believe the final ruling was predicated on the “Right to Privacy” as opposed to the right to live or to be terminated. Let me throw a few arguments out the window before I comment on this subject. First the feminists argue that, as a man, I shouldn’t have a say in this debate. This is baloney as the last time I looked it still took two to tango and the DNA of every baby contains that of the father as well as the mother. Using this thought process we would have to segregate all major decisions into gender pools based on the subject matter and who it may seem to affect the most. Perhaps women shouldn’t be on juries listening to charges against any males etc. The second is the argument that women should have the sole say and responsibility for an unborn baby because it is being carried in her body. This is also bogus because this child should be the responsibility of both parents from the moment of conception. The fathers of every child under the law must take responsibility to support their children up to age 18 whether they want to or not and yet are supposed to be excluded from decision making process until the child is actually out of the womb. Logically this makes no sense. So after justifying why I can have a viable opinion on the subject I will now offer my musings. I do not believe that any unborn child should take precedence over the life of an expectant mother. To me this is very much common sense and is a right we all should have to control any life or death decisions affecting our own person. I also believe in personal responsibility and accountability over those things that you can control. In the case of pregnancy caused by rape or sexual assault the woman obviously lost the control of her own body and therefore bears no responsibility or accountability for the life inside her and should have the clear, undeniable and sole decision making power in this circumstance. After these two sets of circumstances I have a real problem with many of the other reasons for terminating pregnancies in our current day society. As a birth control method it stinks. Think about it. With the multitude of products and methodologies available today people still want to have the right to terminate the child after it has become a living entity. Let’s not get into the stupid argument about when life begins because the reality is that being pregnant means you are “with child” and this happens after the egg and a sperm connect... period. Next comes the moral argument over terminating living babies when it is discovered prior to birth they are defective. What is the defect? How bad is it? Can it be corrected? What will it cost for this child’s care both short term and long term? These are some of the questions facing the soon to be parents and I have a problem providing them or just the mother with the decision making power over that babies life. The soon to be mother may not be capable of understanding any of the information before her or she may not have the resources to care for the child and yet for these reasons we will let her decide to kill a baby because it is abnormal. In the wild, herds of animals have defective offspring all the time and the law of the jungle is that the strong survive and the weak die. Does it make sense that a civilized society should put morals aside and shift back to the law of the jungle when the issue of a defective child arises? Finally the most chilling effect of "abortion on demand" is the fact that our race will be extinct in 100 years or so due to this “it’s all about me” mentality. Controversial as it is, this subject must be addressed by the entire group of people that make up our society, not just politicians, radicals or judges who think they know best. What is the fear of having a referendum on the subject? Could it be that there is a chance that "privacy and inconvienience" would not trump "life" at the ballot box?
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Abortion debate
This feminist doesn't assume that the father has no choice in this decision.
I'm not alone, so please don't paint us all with the same brush.
Abortion as a method of birth control stinks. You are right on that.
What I think you are overlooking is that the situations where abortion can be reasonably considered, are more complex and far reaching than the situations you note (rape).
An unplanned and unwanted pregnancy is still very possible in this day and age despite all of the birth control methods available.
The impacts of such a pregnancy on the lives of the two people involved are also very complex.
I cannot even imagine the difficulties and as a result I would never pass judgement on any decision that two people would have to make.
I'm unclear on your views about terminating a pregnancy when the health of the child is known to be very poor.
You imply that the 'law of the jungle' is survival of the fittest.
In the jungle an abnormal infant is generally eaten shortly after birth....so I don't even want to go there.
I do know that when I was pregnant there were tests that could be done at a certain stage of pregnancy that would tell us whether something was wrong.
I know that we chose not to have those tests.
I also know that at the time I was in a solid relationship and I was financially and emotionally secure.
Through my work I have seen what can happen when children are born with seriously life altering conditions and their parents are not in a position to care for them.
And as a result, I will never pass judgement on any choice two parents make.
Abortion Debate
My reference to "Feminists" was based on quotes from Gloria Stienhem and her crowd. I guess I could have prefaced "feminist" with the word "radical". I do not want to pass judgement on anyone either I just want there to be less decision making room when it comes to letting a baby live or termnating its life. My point regarding the health of the unborn child is regarding the ability to make the choice to terminate an unborn child because, for example. it has no legs, or some other equally dibilitating deformity.
Be careful with using quotes
Be careful with using quotes from the likes of Gloria Stienhem now, as she was a feminist of 40 some years ago. Things back then were a whole lot different and quite frankly radical feminists were (in my view) necessary back then to get things rolling...and that they did. Damn, they burned their bras to make a point...today celebrate the pretty lacey things because we've learned those bras are for US and they're nothing to be ashamed of.
I saw your point about the ability we have now to know about the health of an unborn child....I just wasn't clear on how you felt about that.
I was pregnant 13 years ago and I'm sure technology is so much more advanced. But I can tell you I lost sleep about whether to have those tests done. In the end, my feeling was what would be the point in knowing before the baby was born (though now apparently they can actually do surgery on fetus' in utero...amazing)
I recall my doctor was surprised and concerned with my decision not to find out, which I found interesting in itself. Don't you want to know she said. No.
But that was me.